I'm sort of surprised it took Jev for everyone to realize "oh yeah, this is a useful thing that we should have in our product portfolio".
But maybe this is one of those things that's only obvious in retrospect? I'm sure people were trying something similar years ago with grammar-constrained outputs (for example to only output a simple json structure), but you can't get probabilities out of the model that way. Which makes me wonder: how do these models calculate probabilities?
eminence32
For anyone wanting something local, private, faster, which can also run and train on CPU, checkout https://http://jeffyclassify.com/
It comes with a bunch of pre trained classifiers, and you can use the tooling to train your own
There are also integrations with workflow tools like n8n
nico
I have still not used a decision model, How are people using them at the moment? is any one using them in a coding harness like Pi?
kodoman
The best decision model I have used (besides Jev itself) is respan/span-02, which is based on (finetuned from?) Gemma4 26A4. That makes me optimistic for this release, despite the high cost.
theanonymousone
Its bit more expensive than other other Decision Models in the same lane.
However, it can accept Audio and Video as input as well and for those specific cases it can be extremely useful.
Presuming this started when Jev was released... If so, thats pretty quick time to release for Google.
londons_explore
Surprised how close all these models are on the benchmarks
wasabi991011
Google ensuring “share of wallet” from their existing customer base with a solid but not great “we do it too” product, priced to capitalise on risk and change aversion.
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But maybe this is one of those things that's only obvious in retrospect? I'm sure people were trying something similar years ago with grammar-constrained outputs (for example to only output a simple json structure), but you can't get probabilities out of the model that way. Which makes me wonder: how do these models calculate probabilities?
eminence32
It comes with a bunch of pre trained classifiers, and you can use the tooling to train your own
There are also integrations with workflow tools like n8n
nico
kodoman
theanonymousone
However, it can accept Audio and Video as input as well and for those specific cases it can be extremely useful.
waximabbax
kaycebasques
https://developers.google.com/edge/mediapipe/solutions/decis...
abhikul0
londons_explore
wasabi991011
Standard practice by the big G.
holografix